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Discussion in ‘ Quotes and Proposals ‘ started by tigerFeb 2, Log in or Sign up. Probably hit the wrong button. So geocpmfort I’ve received 2 quotes on a geothern system with a desuperheater included. Both are for a 2 stage system.
Both include a 10KW strip, the pad, drilling 1 says extra if rock is hit in drillingdigital thermostat and duct work alterations. The more expensive provides an “electrostatic air filter you apparently just wash and put back.
My question is, which system is more efficient and has a better reputation in this field? Is there really that much difference in manufacturers? I did not mention the total costs from each as I thought it might not be right to do that. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. Still waiting for the 3rd contractor to show up. We deal with WF, and yes, they are more expensive.
An installer can go broke pretty quick with questionable support of their supplier, so I haven’t shopped around too much. I just end up servicing a lot of different units. I have no issues over the quality of the units I saw on the Hydron side.
Just didn’t have any local support for our business. Having someone else do the power wiring is pretty standard. Codes generally require a permit for this, and not many of us carry full-time electricians on staff. We usually just include it and you would never know that it is being sub-contracted. Or on new construction, we borrow whoever is already involved in the house construction for this.
Permanent or disposable air filters. Permanent are nice because of the odd size and difficulty in finding many heat pump filters. Disposables are nice because we like throwing things away. Generally let the qualified contractor pick the equipment and don’t stress over that too much.
I was just slightly concerned that the 5 ton bid cost less than the 4 ton bid and most everything else was the same. The warranty for the GeoComfort is only 5 years I believe but you can purchase the extended warranty. I doubt the extended warranty, washable filter and the high voltage instal would justify a 4 grand difference. Maybe the quality would make some difference but that much?
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I do like the Water Furnace installer. They have maintained our heat pump circa and I’ve always been happy with the people and their service. They do have a reputation for being the highest cost in the area though. Their service does count for something when I look at the bids but, like I said, 4 grand?
I might give them a call and see what they might be able to work out but I also know, it is not really fair to the other guy geeocomfort do that. I was not aware the filters are not readily available like the standard ones. Thanks for the heads up on that one.
One more thing, the water furnace contractor is charging an extra for the desuperheater and install which is part of the 4, difference. Other company it is included. A 5 ton system should be more expensive than a 4 ton system. The bigger heat pump should cost more and a larger loop field should cost more. Assuming both loop fields are installed the same Horizontal, Vertical or Open loop.
Are both contractors adding a buffer tank and it’s required plumbing for the desuperheater? The size of the heat pump is based on those numbers. In the heating world, that’s a pretty big difference in capacity. I would recommend the 10 year parts and labor agreement for either unit. Make sure the contractor accepts the factory labor rates and if they do not what added prjce is billed to you. BergyFeb 2, Bergy, Thanks for your input.
I was confused by the same thing geocomfor at the size vs.
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The Water Furnace fellow higher bid and smaller unit told me they plan to insulate the duct work geocomfortt 20 feet but that should not raise the cost much either. Neither company mentions anything about a buffer tank. The GeoComfort company also mentioned they might use a 9″ drill and place 2 vertical lines in each. I had posted a question regarding that after he mentioned the idea while we were talking.
He did say they could drill the standard holes if I preferred but the cost would increase somewhat. I wonder if that could be part of the reason why he is cheaper for a larger unit. Regarding the load information: Total load is listed as 51, heat loss and heat gain. It also shows a 5 ton unit should be the equipment installed.
We have a 4 ton heat pump right now. I showed these geofomfort to both contractors. He said no one keeps their inside temp at 75 degrees and the outside winter norm listed as 0 degrees has increased since ‘ This is getting a little complicated. I’m still waiting for the 3rd fellow to show up.
He called last night and said he’d be geocomffort this morning. Oh, as to the factory labor rates, I read a post about that and it’s on my list. I agree that the 5 ton costs more to install so prcie is a curious disparity. A third estimate is in order to get a better feel for the best fit for your home and the going rate in town. AMI ContractingFeb 3, All, The third contractor came by this AM.
He looked at the figures on the drawings and, after looking around the house agreed with the 5 ton vs.
Something to do with the heat not going to second stage as much, use of the heat strip would be very low if used at all except for real severe winter temps non existent this year–so far and during the summer the system geocomflrt usually run in the first stage. Think I got that right.
He did suggest I get a “holding tank” that would hold water heated by the desuperheater and then it would supply hot water to the electric water heater. He’s also drilling down ‘ per hole and using 4 holes.
I’ll be interested to see his figures next week. The art is to build it mean but lean. Don’t worry about brands,both are high quality units. Worry about the installer. If non of the first guys have a second tank buffer but a desuperheater in their plans, stay away from them. A desuperheater is pretty much useless if you don’t have a buffer tank. Installers who recommend a desuperheater without a buffer tank really don’t understand geocomffort to build an efficient system. Like I said, the third contractor who came by yesterday told me the same thing.
It defeats the purpose of having a desuperheater if you don’t install a holding tank. He said I would only need a 50 gallon one tied into our 75 but I could go higher if I wanted. I’ll be curious to see what his bid is next week. Hope everyone prixe a good weekend and thanks again to all for your guidance. Not sure where you are located in MO? The installer that did my unit went smaller than several other contractors. I sent a PM with pricee info I’ll update everyone next week once the third bid shows up.
AMI ContractingFeb 4, I’ll stick with the 50 gallon tank he suggested and call him tomorrow to ask for figures for a 4 ton unit. I still do not understand why prcie first heocomfort did not indicate a holding tank on their bids if you need one for the desuperheater.
I’ll be in touch and again, thanks to everyone for all the help.
I’m not sure what I would have ended up with without this forum and all your input. AMI ContractingFeb 5, In fairness their are companies out there that have had modest success in the past with single tank installations particularly on R22 systems and some don’t take the prcie intrest as others in system monitoring or blogging on sites like this.
I’m waiting for a manufacturer to step up and take single tank systems out of their installation options.